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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:57 am 
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Since I've done spent a rediculous amount of money already... I've though about seeing if someone could do a TX10 doubler. I've seen pictures of the tx12 doubler and it doesn't seem that much different if applied to the TX10. Is it really that expensive to R&D it? I'm not sure how much profit could be made for the producing company since it's kind of unknown who will actually purchase it, although I know I would if one is ever made... Also wondering, with the extra torque if said doubler was made, do you think the engine mounts will hold up with the safety straps/chains to limit movement? Not sure if the "doubler" is the correct term to use either.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:21 pm 
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Here's an email I sent to Marks4wd.com:
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Hi from the US! I'm sure I have e-mailed yall before about making a doubler for the Nissan TX10 transfer cases that we Nissans have over here in the United States. I was wondering if yall have attempted to try and make it. I would love to have one and I'm sure many of us Nissan folks here would too!!!


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Hello,

Thanks for the Email.

As we do not have the transfer case that you want to adapt over here we do not get any demand for it.
There maybe a possibility that if you can get a batch of people who would like this adaptor made, then maybe Mark will look at doing one.
The only problem is that we do not have access to the type of transfer case you require.
I am not guaranteeing that he will defiantly do it, but it is a possibility if we can get a transfer case and you can get enough interest.
What you will need to do is send through a letter of request addressed to Mark.
You would probably need to get a solid 15 or 20 orders for this to happen.
As we do not have the TX10 transfer case over here you may have to look at sending one over to us.
It really depends how serious you are about this.
We would need to receive payment for all the orders before we could look at doing this adaptor.
Have you tried contacting Advance Adapters about this?.


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Aaron Dent
Marks 4wd Adaptors.



I sent an email to Advance Adapter a couple of days ago but may have to follow it up with a phone call.


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well it's cool that they would even consider it.. but it sucks that you would have to pay for shipping it over there and they would want payment from everyone before starting.

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I'v sent an e-mail to Advance adaptors a couple of days ago and it may take a while for me to get a reply back. I may have to call though. I am really serious about this but I must muster up a demand for it by those that are interested and committed to buying the adapter. What is an approximate cost and time frame for said adapter if I can get a good quote to have it developed?


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Hello Cuong,

Thanks for the reply.

I will not be able to give you any costing as we have no idea what is involved in doing the yob.
Until we get a transfer case we have nothing to go on.
Same thing with the time frame, we do not know what is involved in making this or even if it is possible.

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Aaron Dent
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The TX12 setup is about $1500 US. by the time you ship it it'll be closer to $1700.

I can't see getting enough people to prepay to pull it off.

There's supposedly someone working on making an adapter to use a domestic case behind the Nissan tranny. That's probably a more plausible route.

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Yeah, I've been reading the thread. What conversion number did you use to get that number?
doubler: 985.00 AUD = 807.198 USD
shifter: 265.00 AUD = 216.937 USD

Australia Dollars
1 AUD = 0.818632 USD

United States Dollars
1 USD = 1.22155 AUD

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:12 pm 
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Got the email back from Advance Adapters:

what I sent:

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I am curious to know if AA would be able to produce a doubler kit for Nissan's TX10 transfer case. I know AA has been around for along time putting out high quality products and services for the growing 4-wheel drive community. Granted that I'm sure a limited stock would be sold but as AA may know already that Nissans have a very limited aftermarket support in the 4-wheel drive department and expensive parts due to the lack of support. 4-wheeling is an expensive hobby and what I've paid shows it: $1000+ for my 3.7:1 transfer case gears and ring and pinions can be priced at +$600.I understand that R&D is expensive and time consuming and it would require a reasonable demand to start and continue it. That demand is low because Nissans lack the support it needs and people go with what is proven and CHEAPER! Of course, everyone started off somewhere and things got cheaper as more companies try to compete with the market. I want to prove that Nissans can keep up with the Jeeps, Toyotas, and others out on the trails. It would be a blessing to see Advance Adapters INC add to Nissan's limited aftermarket support so that we (Nissan enthusiasts) can enjoy the great fun of wheeling the outdoors along with our other counterparts(Jeeps, Toyotas,etc.) I speak on behalf of the Nissan Enthusiasts out there to help give us a chance to compete on levels like the many Toyotas and Jeeps seen out there on the trails!

Your average joe 4-wheeler,
Cuong Nguyen



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Cuong We have looked at doing a doubler kit for the tx10 case and determined it was not going to work as well as others. We are currently working with one of our nissan specialist customers on a 2 speed atlas and if all goes well we will be able to do the 4 speed atlas as well. We are aware you guys are out there and trying to help you out.

Steve Roberts
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Advance Adapters Inc.
1-800-350-2223 Ext. 526
1-805-238-7000 Ext. 526 (international)
steve@advanceadapters.com


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What do you mean by "not going to work as well as others?" I know quite a few folks that are currently running the transfer case gears sold by Calmini and Automotive Customizers and I think that it would defeat the purpose of getting rid of the TX10 with gears just to replace it with another transfer case with close to the same gearing/slightly better. I may be wrong here since I am not quite familiar with the Atlas setup and only know that it's a Godly transfer case and with a big price attached to it.

What is the current prediction of pricing and estimate of date of release of the 2 spd and 4 spd?


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The cost and sizing of doubling (how it would fit in the vehicle) the nissan cases detured us from doing it. The advantage of the doubler is having 2 low range options. The Atlas is availabe in low range ratios of 2.0, 3.0, 3.8, 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, in the 2 speed form and 1:1, 2.0, 2.72, and 5.44 or 1:1, 2.72, 3.8, and 10.34 in the 4 speed options. The cases range in price from $2195 to $2895 the cases come complete with yokes and twin stick shifters. The adapter to the nissan trans has not yet been determinded. The cost for the adapter to a Titian trans is about $200.00 and the tx10 replacement shoud be about the same.
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Hmmm Atlas transfer case

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There's another company doing the same thing. Basically if you can run an Atlas then you can run a bunch of others with the same mating pattern. There's a thread on Pirate dicussing it.

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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438873

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I am throughly confused. Does the frontier in Ausie, R50, and Xterra thing over there not use the TX-10? I find it highly unlikely that every Nissan over there has the TX-12...I thought this was a Patrol only case.

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The D22 in Aus = Navara. From what I've gathered, they don't have many pickups over there due to the taxes on them. A lot of the trucks are Patrol "Chasis Cabs" or "Utes", very few D22s. Most of them were diesels too....I don't know if the TX10 came on a diesel.

They don't have XTerras....they have Patrols instead.

The pathfinder's the only other thing that would have it. I'm betting there just wasn't a demand for them....I doubt they sold many with the Patrol available.

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